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Lucy Dacus confirms Taylor Swift name drops her in The Tortured Poets Department


A major Taylor Swift rumour has been confirmed with just eight words.

Since the release of The Tortured Poets Department in April 2024, fans have been wondering who the “Lucy” named in the song’s title track could be.

For those unfamiliar with the song, fans have speculated it to be about Swift’s rumoured fling with Matty Healy.

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Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, and Lucy Dacus of Boygenius, winner of the "Best Rock Performance" award for "Not Strong Enough", the "Best Rock Song" award for Not Strong Enough, and the "Best Alternative Music Album" award for "The Record", pose with Taylor Swift, winner of the "Album of the Year" and "Best Pop Vocal Album" awards for "Midnights", and Jack Antonoff, winner of "Producer of the Year, Non-Classical", pose in the press room during the 66
Taylor Swift is rumoured to have name dropped Lucy Dacus (left) and Jack Antonoff (right) in her song The Tortured Poets Department. (Getty Images for The Recording A)

In one verse, Swift sings, “Sometimes, I wonder if you’re gonna screw this up with me / But you told Lucy you’d kill yourself if I ever leave / And I had said that to Jack about you, so I felt seen / Everyone we know understands why it’s meant to be / ‘Cause we’re crazy.”

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Upon the album’s release, fans immediately made two connections; one was that the Jack mentioned was likely Swift’s long-term collaborator and friend, Jack Antonoff, and two, that the Lucy mentioned was most likely Swift’s friend and member of Boygenius, Lucy Dacus.

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However, neither had been confirmed. That is, until now.

In a new interview with People, Lucy Dacus opened up about the track and her role in bringing it to life.

“I think it’s fair game to say ‘yes’,” Dacus confirmed when asked if she was in fact the Lucy in question.

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“She [Swift] actually texted me and asked for my approval,” Dacus added.

The Night Shift singer recalled the first time she listened to the album, explaining that it was the first record Swift had released since the pair became friends. 

“Listening to a friend’s record feels so much different than a stranger’s record,” Dacus explained.

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The Tortured Poets Department is the first album Swift has released since becoming friends with Dacus. (Getty)

“So I was like, ‘This is really weird. This voice that I’ve heard basically what feels like my whole waking life saying my name’.

“It was definitely an experience,” she continued.

“I sat down and I was like, ‘Huh. Wow.’ But I think that that record of hers is super open-hearted, and I don’t know how many people at her level, if anyone is at her level, are writing from the heart that openly.”

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